The original post can be found here
My first response can be found here
The second exchange and my response can be found here
The most recent response from McCain can be found here
Alrighty then. Let’s get going with this.
Okay, first of all, it’s titled “The Precocious Feminist Replies.” I’m still uncertain as to whether precocious is meant as an insult! I don’t know if I’ve ever heard it used as such (I just rarely hear or see it used at all, honestly) and I’m (unnecessarily) confused.
I’m totally with you on the idea that radical feminism is a f–king disease which needs to be eradicated. It’s what gives feminism a bad name and is quite frankly bulls–t. Glad we could find something that we really agree on. However, I’m not a radfem. I don’t think penile-vaginal intercourse is rape. I don’t think men are inherently evil, and I don’t think women are inherently good.
Oh. Then she’s not really a feminist. Yet. On the other hand . . .
“The Ouija-board girl.” I’d love it if you actually used my name. You’ve already identified me as the Precocious Feminist; anyone who has read the original post will understand that Sophia Hudson=Precocious Feminist or won’t get it at all.
fem·i·nismˈfeməˌnizəm noun: feminismthe advocacy of women’s rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.
How many times to I have to drill this into everyone’s heads—I am not a radical feminist. I do not hate men. Just because the only men I talk about are the ones with whom I have bad relationships doesn’t mean I don’t talk to others. And again, I do not think women are inherently good just by virtue of being female, which is (if you knew what the hell you were talking about) a radical feminist belief.
Women can be evil (capital-E-Evil if you prefer) and men can be capital-G-Good; if I was a radfem I definitely wouldn’t be saying that. Although I guess it’s all the same to you.
Okay, let’s get something straight right now.
(No pun intended, I’m sure.)
Bahahahahahahaha, there wasn’t any pun intended but that was pretty great. You have a certain sense for the comedy of things that I just don’t. Kudos to you, friend.
I don’t know what surprise you thought I was referring to (the surprise of the fact the board worked, maybe?) but I was referring to the surprise that I’m bi. So, yeah, my friends were in fact really surprised, because they’re homophobes who are terrified of girls being in love with them. Just wanted to clear that up for ya.
It was clear to me all along. However, I didn’t mention in my blog what the Ouija board said about her, because pursuing that tangent might have required another 500 words I wasn’t in a mood to write. So I merely alluded to it indirectly, remarking that “it is admittedly weird to discover a high school kid writing about ‘heteronormativity.’” Yet she seems to wish to discuss it further. Very well, then . . .
Oh for goodness sake! It doesn’t matter if it’s fully obvious to you, it matters whether it’s obvious to your readers which it obviously was not. You are writing for an audience, remember? An audience which now thinks my friends are the spawn of Satan.
Let’s see: She’s not old enough to get a drivers license, but is already (a) questioning heteronormativity, (b) professing her own bisexuality, and (c) condemning her friends as homophobes.
If she keeps traveling that trajectory, where will she be at 18 or 19? Considering her expressions of disgust with her ex-boyfriend and her resentment of her father, doesn’t it seem possible that her disdain for males might become more generalized in the future?
Let’s see: She’s not old enough to get a driver’s liscense, but is already (a) more educated than most adults, (b) experiencing sexual attraction toward people of both the same and opposite sex, oh the horror, and (c) simply saying that my friends are a product of our culture just like the rest of us are.
At the age of eighteen or nineteen I hope to be studying Sociology at Columbia Law, far away from my asshole dad and my ambitionless ex. I hope to be dating a nice guy. I hope to be having the time of my life.
My disdain for males will not become generalized because I judge people for what they do, not for what they are. I don’t have any issue with someone until they start being an asshole to me.
But wait — this is crazy!
Her self-declared “bisexuality” is purely speculative, a matter of imagination. Her situation illuminates the problem with how young people are now being indoctrinated to think about sex. All this chatter about sexual orientation and gender identity emerging from academia and promulgated in pop culture is profoundly confusing to many young people. A teenage girl whose “sexuality” so far has been limited to some clumsy kissing and fondling with her ex-boyfriend nevertheless identifies as “bisexual” on what we might call a theoretical basis. This identification then qualifies her to denounce her girlfriends as homophobes because they “are terrified of girls being in love with them.”
In that context, isn’t “homophobe” just a synonym for heterosexual?
Alright, you got me there, I am in fact bi on a theoretical basis. (although let me tell you, that kissing and fondling didn’t stay clumsy for long 😉 ) But if you can say my sexuality is only theoretical, then aren’t all the good little Christian boys and girls only theoretically straight? This is heteronormativity in action, folks. Although since you seem to be hung up on the idea that I’m too young to use this word which I, by the way, totally understand, I’ll put it in teenager terms. “Everybody straight. Nobody LGBT. Me like drugs and party and sex. Hur-de-dur-durrr.”
Is that better for you?
And you know what, maybe I’m being unnecessarily rude here (okay, more like definitely) and you know what? I don’t care at this point. I tried to be civil, but you can’t even call me by name or validate me as a person because of my age.
Given the direction our culture is heading, one can imagine a scenario in which anyone who rejects a homosexual advance — “No, thanks, I’m straight” — is accused of being a homophobe, so that society is effectively divided into two groups: Gays and Haters.
Nor is this a problem we need only imagine in the distant future. We can see how this attitude is already beginning to take hold among teenagers. The precociously “bisexual” feminist at Please Excuse My Vagina may indeed be an omen of the liberal future.
Oh good lord. I don’t even know how to respond to this because it is stupid on a deeper level than anything I’ve experienced.
The very idea that homosexuals exist as the devil’s playthings to prey on the straight is a fuckinglie. It is a concept created by our heteronormative (oh, am I not allowed to use that word?) society and it’s dead wrong. I could go on and on for years about why this is so end-all ridiculous but in the interest of not beating a dead horse, I’m just going to keep my mouth shut for now.
Seriously, before today I’ve used the word heteronormativity maybe two or three times? Just as I’ve talked about the physical aspect of my sexuality (aka my period stopping because I didn’t weigh enough for it to occur) maybe once or twice, and just as I mentioned using a Ouija board once in passing—you people are getting hung up on the littlest things. Argue that I’m not a feminist, fine. Argue that I’m only “theoretically bisexual.” Fine! Argue that I am possessed by fucking demons and that’s why I have anxiety and a shitty parent and an abusive ex. Fucking fine.But if I hear one more time that my age invalidates what I’m saying then I am going to lose whatever is left of my mind!!!
Okay. Rant over for now. Onto the comments.